1797
Our Cup Runneth Over
Extract of a Communication given to Joanna Southcott in 1797, being one of those opened at the Neckinger, in December, 1804. It was in answer to her fathers coming to Mr. Woollands to have money of her, as he had no employment; but as she had already given him that year many pounds, and knowing he would keep on coming for money, while he knew she had any, she asked Mrs. Woolland, before him, to lend her some money to give him. Mrs. Woolland gave him meat to carry home, and gave him money, so that he saidHis Cup ran over. Joannas father had become a child by old age, and had lost all prudence in the management of money.
The Spirit of Truth.
Now Joanna Ill thee answer,
Every type that doth appear:
Doth thy fathers Cup run over?
Now the mystery I shall clear.
Let every one like her begin
To feed the hungry poor;
Then all your Cups shall over run
My blessings are in store.
For I have now begun like thee
To borrow of My friends,
While I have
hidden Gold in store:
Tis deep what thou hast penned.
I said beforenow this Ill clear,
I copied after thee;
And in the end thoult find it so,
And deeps the mystery.
The Golds concealed thats not revealed,
And borrowed of thy friend:
And poverty did plead with he,
But mark and see the end.
For here thy father thou hast tried
And pleadst to him distress
Borrowed to have his wants supplied,
And set his heart at rest.
But now the mystery Ill explain,
That I have acted so
I ask to borrow of My friends
The work that they may do:
Tis their assistance they must lend
To help in this distress;
And cant I get a faithful friend
To undertake My cause?
Then sure my stock it must be low,
If friends I can get none;
Then on the Cross its time to go
Forbid the Banns to man,[1]
And when the words thou here hast penned
Ill answer thee again.
The Church of England and the Church of Rome
Two men went upon the Market Cross in Honiton:One said, he published the Banns of Marriage between the Church of England and that of Rome. The other said, he forbad the Banns, for they were too near akin already. Simple as this may appear, it was answered to me in the following lines:
The Spirit of Truth.
Simple doth this thing appear,
By curious heads twas done;
But I shall bring the substance near
And to the purpose come.
The Banns were right, I did indite,
It is My just decree;
That marriage should you both unite,
And both the Cross now see,
Let both appear, and tell Me where
I pardon placed in man?
If such a thing could ever be
I surely died in vain.
If gold could pardon sinners here
From Heaven Id never come
First in the Stable to be born,
Then in the Manger lie:
And suffer men to spoil My fame,
Then on the Cross to die
For to redeem the World from sin,
And give them pardon free.
I saidit was finished, at that time,
Now finished it shall be,
Because the Banns I will maintain
They are put in Pomeroys[2] hand:
And are these two so near akin
This marriage cannot stand?
Then now comply and tell Me why
Your kinsman is so near,
There is no marriage can take place
First cousins marry here?
So if you are no nearer akin
The marriage may take place:
But if you say you nearer be
Yourselves you do disgrace.
And this I own that you have done
Youve made yourselves as one.
My Bible is forgot by all,
Youve made it but a form.
For as the man did then condemn,
The Banns he did forbid,
And England surely acts like him
Then there is none to wed.
So akin you be I plainly see,
Your kindred throw aside;
For Cain and Abel must appear,
Then, to bring down your pride
And lowly to the manger come
As vengeance doth cry there
For Cains I see in every land
Then who the debt shall clear?
The Marriage of the Lamb.
It is not by man it can be done,
No blood of lambs below
Then men must be wedded to Me
And let your kindred go:
For if you are so near akin
That marriage cant take place,
Then see the Lamb for all was slain
To wed the human race.
So now they call you Brethren all,
And all be wed to Me;
The Marriage of the Lamb must come
And give you Unity.
And till this Marriage doth take place
My sword will surely smoke:
Myself I shall no more disgrace,
But bring on man the stroke.
For with the Chapter Ive begun,
And with it I will end
Until the Marriage of the Lamb
Make every nation bend.
So married be and wed with Me,
Since kindred is so near,
Then now as brethren let all be,
My Sons and Daughters here,
And let your warlike trumpets sound
The Marriage of the Lamb.
My Echo then shall back rebound
My Sons and Daughters come
From East to West, from North to South
My glittering Sword shall fly,
Until the Nations do give up
And in the valleys lie.
My sons from far must then appear,
My daughters gladly come,
Jerusalems low walls repair,
And build them up again.
So let the Gentiles now begin
And sound your warlike voice,
Then fast the Nations they will come,
And tremble at the noise:
Because this land I so will bless,
That every land shall fear,
One man a thousand sure shall chase
When they begin this war.
For by My Friends I then shall stand,
Because My Kingdoms nigh;
Ill bring such victories in your land,
That all men shall comply:
My Kingdoms coming down below
Then let My Soldiers fight
For to maintain My Gospels true,
And now be sons of light,
And your Baptismal Vow maintain
Like men of courage stand,
And manful fight as sons of light,
The Devils nigh at hand.
Under My Banner you must fight
The world will now ensnare;
My Soldiers must be men of light
And men of valour here,
For Satans weapons will be strong
Your Breastplate must be sure,
The Helmet of Salvation come,
And stand with courage here.
Now gird your swords, and use them well,
And valiant fight for Me:
Ill quench the raging powers of hell,
And give you victory.
So here My promises are great
If men do Me obey;
But if I find them but deceit,
Ill turn the other way:
For fast My vengeance it shall fall
On this enlightened land:
Will men refuse My every call,
And still in silence stand
To see Jerusalem destroyed
Before they will believe?
Then like the Jews theyll scattered be
And too late shall grieve,
If they My judgments wait to see
They shall not wait in vain:
Ill bring about such mystery
Shall foil them in the end.
Darkness hath been in every land;
Gross darkness it is here;
For here My Gospel it doth stand
But none do see it clear:
For none discern how I do warn,
Now let thy head go deep
For as the shadow first did come
The substance now did drop:
For Nutcombe[3] first did thee deceive
And disappoint thy hope,
And laughed thee out of countenance
So perfect this did drop;
For all thy confidence is gone,
That thou didst place in he,
But when I to the purpose come
His head will fall like thee.
[Extracted from Express Leaflet, No. 38.]
The Red Sea
1797.
The following was explained to Joanna, in answer to the ponderings of her own heart; as the prophecies given to her that were to come seemed wondrous to believe; but as the past had always come true, it had filled her with faith and fear: she was answered in the following manner.
Now stop thy hand; for Ill begin,
And all thy reasonings will explain:
Art thou perplexed on every side?
Then here the Field is opened wide.
Did Abraham eer obtain his bliss
Till Isaac was bound to the cross,
Or on the Altar did appear?
His Son was bound the truth to clear.
An untried faith, I call it none;
Walk then by faith, let sight alone,
Believe thy God will thee protect
And all thy ways I will direct.
Did not Moses struggle long
Till to the red sea he did come?
And then the waves I did divide,
On dangers brink I changed the tide
And brought My people safe on shore;
I left the foes to perish there.
Now here of Moses I will end:
To come to Job is My intend,
Because his case was most like thine,
His House and money did decline:
Afflictions fast on him did come,
Like Jobs Wife, she, would me condemn:
Now therefore, I did bring thee low;
Thy steadfast heart they all shall know.
Faith is a gift that comes from me,
And thy integrity theyll see;
For earth and Hell cannot remove
The Soul that walks by faith and love.
An untried faith I call it none;
Therefore thy sorrows must come on
I said thy friends like Jobs would be,
And blame they all would cast on thee.
Is thy integrity so strong,
When dangers close upon thee come?
For the last shilling thou must share
Before that I have ended here.
A true copy
[Signed] R. Goldsmith.
[Extracted from a MS. copy.]
On Faith
Communication given to Joanna Southcott in 1797 relative on Faith.
By faith thou comest to the City; By faith thou warnest the Ministers; By faith thou puttest into their hands what would happen, before the shadows appeared: By faith thou art going to visit thy father when thou art surrounded by so much labour.
Then let them know the time is near,
Jerusalem is coming nigh;
Tis said the Spirit and the Bride
That bids you all to come.
But unto whom is this applied,
To say the Spirit it is known?
Let all appear and tell me where
Theyll prove the Spirit now is come?
Since to deny is every cry,
True knowledge there is none.
For who hath ascended up on high;
Or how did I come down,
For to reveal and not conceal
That these things were hastening on?
Then how I came it shall be known;
The Spirit in the Bride
For to affirm all this will come,
And to her it is applied.
But as mens arguments I know,
That some will now dispute
The Church must be the Bride Below,
I mean to make them mute.
Unless the Church will all appear
To prove they this did know,
Before the Shadow did appear,
I say in Ninety two;
And prove the Spirit from on high
Did visit them so strong,
And told them dangers sure were nigh
Before the shadows came;
That the dreams and Visions did appear,
Warned them in Midnight sleep;
And in the day did sure appear
Whilst they did silent weep.
Now if the Church can this affirm,
My Kingdom must appear;
Then sure the shadow must be gone,
The substance must be here.
For so twill be you all will see,
I tell you in the end;
For perfect as it comes to thee,
My Spirit I shall send
To all below, let mortals know,
And all may Prophesy;
And strong my Spirit it shall go;
The time is drawing nigh.
For when the marriage of the Lamb
Doth every heart unite,
Like Doves I say you all will fly
And lamps all Burning Bright.
Now I shall shew the foolish here
And tell you who they be,
Who have no light to guide the night
And then too late will see;
It is those men that now begin
To let their lamps grow dry,
And say that when we see the thing
Its time enough to fly.
But then too late will be their fate:
Because the wise will see
And say they did their Lord expect,
And now Hes welcome home.
And welcome they shall be to me,
Their faults I will blot out;
As thou didst blot the written word,
Because thou didst forget;
The words I spoke thou didst forget
But soon didst call to mind,
And perfect like it I shall act
Their faults I will not find.
For those that for my kingdom thirst,
They surely shall obtain,
Whose lamps are burning in their breast;
They Paradise shall gain.
And what to do you all shall know
To shun when dangers nigh,
My Spirit shall before you go
And tell you where to fly.
For as the star[4] doth now appear
And you may see the mark,
Just so twill be when dangers near,
Ill leave none in the dark
That wish to know where they shall go,
Believe that Ill direct;
Look to the mark and then youll know
For faith shall all protect.
Joanna Southcott.
[Extracted from a MS. copy. See also the first Communication in 1800.]
Drawing the Sword
Communication Given in 1797.
For if Men draw the Sword
Let My followers hear My word
That they in no ways interfere
They shall be warned when dangers near
Mistaken will My followers fight
If they refuse to see the light
The Mystery then I shall explain.
[Extracted from a MS. copy.]
A Warning to Mockers
The Spirit of Truth.
Those that do fear thou mockst them here,
And do thy words despise:
In unbelief theyll strong appear,
And too late will grow wise.
For then their fate will be too late,
For fast will all come on
To linger here I will no more,
I see the hearts of men.
For anger here doth now appear
So strong before My view;
Tis time to smart, and see the dart,
For trifling will not do.
Your hearts will ache, and all will break
If I should linger on:
Then as your common custom is,
Ill surely act like man.
So now once smart, and see the dart,
And aching pains be oer:
I see the anguish in all hearts
With different passions torn.
The above is taken from a communication given on the Mutiny on the Seas in 1797, when Parker was hanged, which was foretold three months before it happened. This is a shadow of things to come.
Gods love and tenderness to his ancient people, the Jews, is apparent throughout these Writings. The following is from an unpublished Communication given in 1797, which is in the handwriting of Mr. Foley, who copied it from W. B. Jowetts MS. It is on a dream of Joanna, which is set as a type to the Jews
For I have called a Second time
My Bibles near at end:
For by the Spirit and the Bride
My Kingdom is at hand.
Now if the Gentiles this begin,
Theyll make their calling sure,
Ive let them know from whence they spring
And bless their labours here.
And if the Jews do now refuse,
To join them hand and heart,
I will not trifle long with them,
For they shall feel the smart.
But now thy dream I will explain,
For it, I say, was deep
The woman in thy arms to fly
Just in a fainting fit.
Two lovers she had got below
And trembling them to see;
For when the footsteps she did hear
She closely cleaved to thee
Their sight was more than she could bear,
Her face she hid away,
And pale and trembling, thou dost know,
She did her lovers see.
But mildly on her both did look,
And I shall look the same;
As God and Man I then shall come,
And they shall know My Name.
Because this woman was the Jews,
And trembling they will be,
When they
believe the perfect news,
Twas they that murdered Me.
And that I am their lover still,
Theyll tremble at the sound;
But in My arms I shall them heal,
And they shall know My perfect Will.
By the Jews Ill prove My honour
To this day it is maintained;
From the Jews then came My Mother,
And for Me the Jews were slain.
All is written in My memory
I shall now the truth unfold.
[Extracted from Express Vol. 1, p. 43.]
The Star of Jacob
Ms. 1797.
The Spirit of Truth.
The star of Jacob shall appear,
And then begin to shine,
The Gentiles shall their light behold,
To dazzle all mankind.
My sons from far they shall appear,
To know if it be true,
The glorious tidings far and near
Will wake the stubborn Jew.
But when thy writings fly abroad,
They will begin to come,
Because the truth will sure be known,
That I do guard thy hand.
And when the men together come,
And all the seals appear,
My spirit shall be known to them,
And they shall feel me near;
For as the days of Pentecost
It will to them appear,
The power of the Holy Ghost
Shall fill with joy and fear.
Strange as the vision thou didst see,
And wonder with surprise,
So strange theyll see the mystery
Appear before their eyes.
In a dark night theyll see the light
That will astonish all,
And some will be, they all will see,
As lifeless laid as Paul.
When to Damascus he did go
I met him by the way,
And, as a persecuting Paul,
Will meet thee in a day;
But then, like Paul, they all will fall,
And meet with such surprise,
And own that they before were blind,
But blindness made them wise,
For wise theyll be they all will see,
When all the seals appear.
Tis deeper than philosophy,
Divinity doth err.
Divinity, they all will see,
Hath been too deep for man,
And through a glass they all do see.
And now the light is come,
That face to face you may behold
Without a veil between.
The mysteries I shall then unfold
Will make them naked men,
Naked as from the dust they came
What clothing can they boast?
What fig leaves will they patch for man?
Their garments they have lost,
What brotherly love will any prove?
What innocence appear?
Or can they blame the simple dove,
Should she return no more?
The deluge here I mean to clear,
The branch for peace is come,
The waters great they will abate
Should she return again;
But if she fly the dangers nigh,
And never to return,
Then drunk, like Noah, men will be,
And bring the curse on man.
He lost his dove, he lost his love,
In anger cursed his son,
And from that curse again was lost,
And anger rose in man.
So here again the second scene,
When mans invention was so high
To build a city there.
[Extracted from Had They Had Knowledge, p. 12.]
Seals Must Stand in Every Land
Ms. 1797.
The Spirit of Truth.
You little know how things do go,
And how youre sealθd up,
In every land your seals must stand,
For there the foe must stop.
The circle there to all appears,
Close to the second star,
And with the Lion sealθd there,
Then what have you to fear?
Because your names must all be placed
Close by the second star,
And wheres the foe shall you disgrace
When judgments do appear?
Names are unknown to thee must come,
As half the nations there,
Those that believe thoud not deceive
Shall in that list appear.
Then they shall stand like Israels band,
Or Jacobs children here,
When Moses sprinkled in the land,
The blood upon the door;
When this was done the angel came,
And did the rebels smite.
Theres none shall touch my sealθd men,
If theyll be sons of light,
Thats to believe, I dont deceive,
And send their names or come.
The mysteries here Ill make so clear,
None present shall condemn,
Whoeer is sealed must be revealed,
Then ask if they believe,
And will agree, and sealed to be,
And judge I dont deceive.
Then they shall stand as I command,
If they believe it true;
If they say not, then see their lot,
Ill tell thee what to do.
Blot out their names, for soon Ill shame,
And mark the words were penned,
What is bound here shall still appear,
In heaven they shall be bound,
But what is loosed here must be loosed there,
And so the end Ill crown.
So tis by faith the just you say,
And they shall surely shine,
But heres the fear that I shall clear,
That Satan will deceive,
Those that do fear thou mockest them here.
[Extracted from Had They Had Knowledge, p. 131.]
Malice in Men
Given in 1797.
When men find thy prophecies are true, the rage and malice in the rest will grow, like Josephs brethren, until my thunder loudly will roll on.
This was answered me from a dream of the storms arising, and the thunder roaringa believer, who was in the greatest danger, was the least alarmedto which it was said
The most in danger, and the least to fear,
In true believers thou wilt see most clear.
Joanna Southcott.
[Extracted from Small Still Voice, No. 59.]
On Judas
New Years Day, 1797.
The Spirit of Truth.
When I did resign My glory
The cross from man I did remove;
All their
sufferings I took on Me
All their heavy load I bore.
And when that I came to Calvary,
Cried aloud, Twas finished there.
Now Ill tell thee what was finished,
Perfect at that very time,
Not a thing did I diminish,
But the mysterys still behind.
Now the mystery, Ill explain it;
Satan did in Judas come
In the Garden he betrayed Me,
But the mystery here is plain.
Quickly he threw down the money,
After Satan, he was gone;
When the tempter, he had left him
He did soon become a man,
That was made of dust and ashes,
And had nowhere for to fly
Conscience being then awakened,
Soon the halter he did buy.
Round his neck, he did prepare it,
But did Satan do the same?
No, I say, had
he repented
To the Cross Id never come.
Now the mysterys deep of Judas
I will perfect here unfold
When he did throw down the money,
And his heart did then grow cold,
Because it was the price of blood,
And it, he did throw down.
On the tree
his body hung
Let Satan hear the sound.
For this as man had Judas done,
When he was left alone;
His conscience pricked him to the heart
To think of what he had done.
Then if as man he this had done
To show his sorrow great
Some love to Me, there sure must be,
And that without deceit.
His burden run him to despair
Condemned himselfthen I must clear.
And therefore Judas as a man
I never will him there condemn;
By his repentance what hell gain,
Is all a mystery unto men.
But now one mystery I will clear
Why I pronounced such sentence there
Tis better he had neer been born,
Or the proud waves confined his tomb.
For now I tell thee as a man,
I gave the tempter room to come
And take possession of his heart
And now the truth I will impart.
For Judas, he did Me obey,
I told the tempter not delay,
For he was present at the time
I told him as a man to come,
And in My chosen to appear
In My disciple that was near
To My disciple I did say,
That Satan he must then obey.
The devil came in this disguise,
Now let the sons of men be wise
I tried the deviland the man,
And they appeared both as one,
No difference did then appear
But now the mysteries I shall clear.
The man he surely did relent
Deeper than Peter did repent
His grief was more than he could bear
And man with Me received the spear
That brought him to the very tree,
Now wheres the man condemned to be?
Repenting sinners Ill forgive,
My honour is engaged to save:
And he repented as a man.
Then now the devil let him come
And see if he repents alone,
As Judas did when he was gone.
And if he does not thus repent
I say, My mind is fully bent
To chain him to his final doom,
If in his heart he finds no room
For to repent what he hath done,
And now to copy after man:
Or else on him the lot is cast,
And he the man must be at last
Where I pronounced that fatal doom
To wish he never had been born.
[Extracted from Express Vol. 1, p. 39. See also Voice in the Wilderness, p. 95.]
The Roman Powers
An Extract from a Communication from
Joanna Southcotts Writings.
8th March, 1797.
Revelation, Chap. vi. 10.
And they cried with a loud voice, saying, how long, O Lord, holy and true, dost thou not judge and avenge our blood on them that dwell on the earth.
Isaiah, Chap. xxvi. 9.
For when Thy judgments are in the earth, the inhabitants of the world will learn righteousness.
The Spirit of Truth.
For true Believers I see none,
And all My Bible is made a form,
And as a form you call the Fast,
Ill prove the mystery at the last.
Ye fast for strife and for debate,
That ye may swell your titles great,
To have your pride and grandeur high,
Ye starve the poor and so they die.
To read My Bible now begin,
The Roman powers ye must condemn,
And to the Gospel all must come.
Look back and see what ye have done,
The Martyrs do for vengeance cry,
Avenge our cause, O, Thou Most High!
As in the fire they did burn.
Back on the Roman powers it must turn.
Bring all the books of martyrs here,
Their savage nature must appear,
How they My followers did destroy,
While they their kings did then enjoy,
Their monks and friars they have got,
Their priests, too, and then reprove them not,
Their Popes did pardon all their sins
And now to reason Ill begin;
Back on their heads tis surely come,
Childless they made the martyrs here,
And childless now let them appear,
For all shall know tis My decree,
No ruler in their land shall be,
Till all their gods they do destroy,
And wish My Gospel to enjoy,
And own they were a savage race.
Bring all the martyrs to their face,
And bring their sufferings to their view,
And their religion let them know,
Hath brought the curse now in the end.
Will England stand My foe or friend?
Youll find the battles drawing nigh.
Then you will find you are but men,
And all your power is broken down.
And this from man do not conceal,
What I to man do now reveal,
But let them know it is My word,
That all the earth must know the Lord.
[Extracted from Southcott Despatch, No. 31.]
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